Former US Attorney Joe diGenova Unleashed On Obama

(Gateway Pundit) – Former US Attorney Joe diGenova was again on the Monday morning radio show – Mornings on the Mall and he dropped some shocking statements about former President Obama and his Administration. 

The deep state has removed the video that was posted here. If you google it, you may be able to see it.

This week he was interviewed by Mary Walter and Tony Schaffer, who appeared as a guest host.

Right after the 3:10 mark, diGenova says the following:

When you put together the last 24 hours, the comments by former President Obama, that ‘this is a threat to the rule of law’, which is an utter joke coming out of his mouth. When you put together Mary McCord’s op-ed, and then some of the statements from people associated with Mueller, you realize that the Mueller probe was at the beginning, nothing more than a pretext to get the President impeached. And you realize than anybody in the senior FBI and DOJ levels were in on it, and what’s really fascinating, is when you go back and you look at January 5th, 2017, in the Oval Office, all Intelligence Community leaders, the Vice President [Joe Biden], Sally Yates, Comey, Brennan and Susan Rice – the President of the United States in that meeting, Barack Obama, is discussing the ongoing investigation into the Trump campaign, the inter transition and the Trump Presidency. And, [Obama] says in that meeting, according to Susan Rice, he wants to be kept informed so he can decide whether or not they are going to withhold classified information from the incoming administration involving Russia. That is sedition. That is beyond anything we ever heard about a President leaving office, doing this to his successor. What Obama did in that office was sedition on that day.

Next at the 7:00 mark, diGenova says:

President Obama’s hands are dirty. They are beyond dirty. He has judicial blood on his hands. He is responsible for this injustice. He could have stopped it. He could have said, ‘what are you idiots doing. This is against the duly elected President of the United States, Donald Trump. Why are you doing this?’ He didn’t he encouraged it. And he had the brazen, talk about a brazen plot. How brazen they are sitting in the Oval Office on January 5th and saying they might not share intelligence with the incoming administration. And you know what that means? That means they didn’t want to give it to General Flynn…

At the 10:00 mark diGenova then says:

People forget, because the MSM will not cover the FISA Court decision that two Chief Justices of the FISA Court, Collyer and Boasberg, have written multiple opinions, scathing opinions, accusing the Obama FBI and Justice Department of violating the constitutional privacy of American citizens by unmasking and leaking that information to the press.

Obama and his gang were the most corrupt group in US history.

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Confused About Obama Gate? Tucker Carlson’s Explainer Is So Good, Trump Pinned It to His Twitter Profile

Posted at 12:45 pm on May 12, 2020 by Brandon MorseShare On FacebookShare On Twitter

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Tucker Carlson of Fox News’s Tucker Carlson Tonight decided to tackle the ObamaGate controversy and was apparently so good that President Donald Trump himself tweeted the video out.

It’s likely that Carlson did it because, at this time, the press clearly doesn’t want to dig into what the ObamaGate controversy is. They’d rather skirt their duty and make Trump accuse Obama of something in a clip that they can then dissect, edit, and pass around to their talking heads.

Carlson, however, goes in and goes in deep.

The short version of the story is that both former President Barack Obama and former Vice-President Joe Biden held a meeting during the last days of their administration with various intelligence officials where they plotted to take down president-elect Trump through shady means, including entrapping Gen. Mike Flynn and deliberately making false claims about his relationship with Russia.TRENDING

Flop Sweat Builds as Richard Grennell Plans to Declassify Names of Obama Officials Who Unmasked People

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The long version, as Carlson explains, looks like a very dirty game of politics and abuse of power when all rolled out. I suggest you give the nearly ten-minute video a watch in its entirety.Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

OBAMAGATE!

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It’s understandable why the press would avoid pointing out the facts about the ObamaGate scandal. There are two major things at stake under the umbrella of this story being suppressed. The first is Obama’s legacy, which the left holds up as a pristine example of what a president should look like. They often claim that Obama’s time in the White House was “scandal-free,” an absurd statement given the numerous scandals that happened under his watch, from Benghazi to Fast and Furious.

The second is Biden’s presidential campaign, which would take yet another blow if it turns out that he knew the entire Russia investigation was a hoax from its inception.

Moreover, the entire Democratic establishment will be seen as the liars and cheaters they are, and what’s more, it will be a clear example of how ready they are to abuse the resources provided to them by the intelligence departments. Using that power allowed them by the American people to effectively undermine sitting presidents for their own political gain should be viewed as more than just bad form. This should be punished severely.

Released docs put Obama at the center of Flynn takedown

From the Conservative Cardinal:  by BeckyF

It has been a whirlwind 24 hours for the case against former Trump administration National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. The Department of Justice has dropped the case shortly after the lead prosecutor, Brandon Van Grack, withdrew from it and from a number of other cases he was working on. His future at the Department of Justice is unclear. New documents also show that then-President Obama was at the heart of initiating the case against Michael Flynn.

A memo written by former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates shows that Flynn’s phone call with the Russian Ambassador was discussed in the White House during a meeting with Obama, Biden, James Comey and Yates herself. Joel B. Pollak✔@joelpollak

Obama will be outraged when he finds out … that Obama was involved https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1258490130211442690 …Byron York@ByronYorkFrom court papers: During transition, top Justice Department official Sally Yates learned about the Flynn-Kislyak phone call from President Obama himself. She was surprised.988Twitter Ads info and privacy492 people are talking about this

At the same time, Evidence has come out that Obama was complicit in Joe Biden’s blackmail of the Ukrainian government. Biden is on record bragging that he withheld $1 billion from Ukraine unless they fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company which has Biden’s son Hunter as a board member. This is almost exactly the crime for which Democrats pursued Trump’s impeachment, falsely claiming that Trump withheld aid unless Ukraine investigated the Bidens’ shady dealings in that country.

Obama complicit in corrupt means to safeguard his legacy

Obama would have found out about the call between Flynn and the Russian Ambassador through intelligence channels, either from John Brennan or James Clapper. The set up against Flynn helped them undermine Trump’s attempts to shift policy away from that of the Obama Administration and allowed the Democrats and their donors to prolong their hysterical anti-Russia narrative. During Obama’s White House meeting concerning Flynn, Obama asked Yates and Comey to stay behind to discuss the issue.

As the truth comes out, disgraced lawmen running scared

The legal basis for the Flynn case was the Logan Act, an 18th Century law designed to prevent individuals from pretending to be US diplomats in an age before telecommunications. It has not been invoked in modern times. In a recent interview, Comey bragged about getting away with setting Flynn up, but he may have spoken too soon.Rep. Paul Gosar, DDS@RepGosar

Here’s the video footage of James Comey bragging about setting a perjury trap for Michael Flynn

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Flynn has been exonerated but the case has cost him immense financial and emotional losses. Investigator Brandon Van Grack withdrew from the case after other leaked documents showed that the authorities had nothing on Flynn, but kept the case open and scheduled an interview purely to lay a perjury trap for him. Van Grack had done everything he could to delay the release of the documents favorable to Flynn that Judge Sullivan had ordered the DOJ to release, and which ultimately led to the case being dropped.

Posted by: bj | May 9, 2020

Coup against Trump Unravels

The Coup Against Trump Unravels

Twenty Seven months ago, anyone that investigated the facts would easily conclude that the FBI, CIA, DOJ, DNC, The Obama administration, et al. See here:

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/02/the-fbi-and-cia-failed-coup-against-trump-unravels-by-publius-tacitus.html

Today, the release of information from some of the 53 declassified transcripts of witnesses that testified before Congress regarding the FBI’s Russia probe into the Trump campaign, (which proves the innocence of Michael Flynn and the lies of Adam Schiff) and also PROVES that at the top levels of the Obama: CIA, FBI, DOJ, DNC, Adam Schiff in the House of Representatives) The Hillary Clinton Campaign, and in General, the Deep State, have pursued a 4 plus year coup to prevent Trump from being nominated the republican candidate and then to “ELIMINATE” him after he was elected President.

THE DEFINITION OF THIS IS:………. TREASON………..

Even with all this PROOF and MORE TO COME, the “Left” and their media conspirators, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, PBS, etc., fail to report the TRUTH about the last week of bomb shell events.

Plandemic EXPOSED COVID 19 TRUTH Part 1: Dr. Judy Mikovits

The Bayh-Dole Act allows Dr Fauci to patent their findings (Developed by Institutions funded by US taxpayers) and then license them to private companies. Then Dr. Fauci gives “medical advice” : “Get Vaccinated ” to the world. Conclusion: “A Major Conflict of Interest”

Bill Gates: “Normalcy Returns when we vaccinate the Entire Global Population”

Dr. Fauci’s “National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases” (NIAID) needs to be audited by the DOJ and Trump needs to get the Bath-Dole Act Repealed to eliminate this conflict of interest.

The utube video below has been taken down. Click on the link below for the same video.

Dr Judy Michowitz’s Video Restored

https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/plandemic-part1_ch8NiaKLwwQ11XD.html

The Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, George Soros, Sanofi Pasteur, China, Corona Virus Vaccine Connection

No wonder Gates says nothing bad about (even praised)  China’s involvement and Fauci  through April,  was arguing against the use of hydroxychloroquine as a cure for the China coronavirus:

Dr. Fauci’s Dark Past Brought To Light – Trump Reacts Swiftly

President unhappy with Fauci’s flawed projections and connections to Wuhan Virology Institute, Bill Gates agenda

(Infowars) – President Trump is seeing the light on the real Dr. Anthony Fauci after a series of White House briefings with intelligence insiders who were critical of the embattled supposed coronavirus medical guru.

As detailed on the Thomas Paine Podcast Ep. 21, Trump has soured on Fauci after some closed door meetings at the White House this past week about allegations and questions regarding Fauci’s professional resume. Dr. Judy Mikovits’ detailed disturbing allegations against Fauci on the Thomas Paine Podcast Ep. 19.

The groundswell of anti-Fauci Intel was sparked by a damning interview with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Thomas Paine Podcast Ep. 18 that literally torched Fauci. That followed a brutally alarming podcast on Paine’s Ep. 17 that torched the CDC Director Robert Redfield and White House top doc Dr. Deborah Birx for fabricating HIV/AIDS vaccine research, according to internal DOD documents.

And now the White House has been briefed as well. Paine’s newest podcast detailed the recent turn of events and since it aired this week, Fauci has been largely absent from daily White House briefings. Listen to the podcast here.

Flashback: Tying It All Together: China, Dr. Fauci, French Company Sanofi Pasteur, George Soros And The Gates Foundation

Links between Dr. Tony Fauci, China, French company Sanofi Pasteur, George Soros and the Gates Foundation are old and deep. The China coronavirus ties them all together.

In late December 2019, Taiwan sent an email to the World Health Organization (WHO) stating that a unique ‘atypical pneumonia’ was identified in China and asking the WHO to provide any information they might have regarding the pneumonia:

At exactly the same time, and perhaps in response to Taiwan’s notice, Chinese Health officials notified the WHO of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan:

Chinese health officials informed the World Health Organization about the new virus on Dec. 31. By Jan. 8, it had been identified as a new coronavirus, a large family that causes the common cold and more serious illnesses including SARS, which also began in China. By Jan. 12, Chinese scientists had sequenced the virus’ genetic makeup and shared it with WHO, drawing praise for their transparency and swift action.

But then for most days between January 5th and 16th, China reported no new cases of the coronavirus leading up to the China New Year, yet there were hundreds of cases being reported in Wuhan and around China at this time:

In contrast, the Wuhan heath commission reported no new cases from Jan. 5 to 10 and again from Jan. 12 to 16. China’s Lunar New Year rush —the world’s largest annual human migration — began to get underway, with millions of people passing through Wuhan, a major transit hub. A recently submitted complaint to the National Health Commission alleged that during this period, officials with the Wuhan health commission told doctors they were not allowed to report about the new virus, letting patients wander around freely instead of being isolated.

China knew their biggest annual celebration, the Chinese New Year, was coming at the end of January, starting on Saturday, January 25th. So the Chinese leaders stepped in and punished any reports on the coronavirus:

Not all the blame can be placed on local officials, health and governance experts say. The broader issue is that local officials can be punished for reporting bad news to higher officials. The Chinese government’s rigidity, and a lack of transparency and accountability to the general public means problems like the virus epidemic can fester hidden away until it is too late.

Chinese leadership and the WHO held a lid on the coronavirus for six key days between January 14th and 20th, right before the Chinese New Year:

In the six days after top Chinese officials secretly determined they likely were facing a pandemic from a new coronavirus, the city of Wuhan at the epicenter of the disease hosted a mass banquet for tens of thousands of people; millions began traveling through for Lunar New Year celebrations. President Xi Jinping warned the public on the seventh day, Jan. 20. But by that time, more than 3,000 people had been infected during almost a week of public silence, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press and expert estimates based on retrospective infection data.

On January 15th, China would only report 41 cases publicly. Based on this information, President Trump in Davos claimed that the US had the situation under control, no doubt based on what his health advisors had told him. The media now claims the President missed the significance of the situation but only a week before Trump’s statement in Davos, China had confirmed only 41 cases of the coronavirus. By January 31st, the WHO would label the China coronavirus a public health crisis. By February 2nd, China would report more than 17,000 cases.

In Steps Dr. Fauci and French Company Sanofi Pasteur

In 2006 there was an H5N1 outbreak in Asia and by June, human to human transmission was confirmed but no one in the US was infected at that time. In response, the New York Department of Health concocted a response to this “pandemic.” In a complete 180 from what is being done today, Dr. Anthony Fauci who has served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) since 1984, and New York City Mayor Bloomberg, recommended against a mandatory quarantine.

Soon after, in 2007, Dr. Fauci personally licensed and saw to the performance of clinical trials to create a vaccine for the H5N1 pandemic that was previously declared by Fauci. The company that Fauci worked with to create and stockpile a vaccine for the avian flu was Sanofi Pasteur:

The FDA has licensed Sanofi Pasteur’s H5N1 vaccine, the first avian flu vaccine for humans. Sanofi Pasteur, in collaboration with the National Institutes of Health, submitted a BLA to the FDA for the vaccine. The licensure is the first step in achieving the government’s goal of stockpiling vaccine to protect those who are at increased risk of exposure to the H5N1 flu virus contained in the vaccine during the early stages of a pandemic.

Fast forward to February 18, 2020, as America was preparing for the China coronavirus, the HHS engaged Sanofi Pasteur to help develop a coronavirus vaccine. At the same time and through April, Dr. Fauci was arguing against the use of hydroxychloroquine as a cure for the China coronavirus:

The White House coronavirus task force had its biggest fight yet on Saturday, pitting economic adviser Peter Navarro against infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci. At issue: How enthusiastically should the White House tout the prospects of an antimalarial drug to fight COVID-19?

Peter Navaro reportedly was very angry with Fauci and supplied folders of studies showing how the anti-malaria drug worked against the coronavirus. Navaro also reminded all in the room that it was Dr. Fauci who argued against President Trump’s travel ban with China in January.

Sanofi Pasteur and George Soros

Sanofi Pasteur is related to one of the very first western labs located in the Republic of China. One of it’s investors is George Soros.

Soros also invests in a company in Wuhan, China, where the Coronavirus outbreak began. That company is called Wuxi AppTech, which just so happens, they develop vaccines too. This company is also related to the former Head of the China Communist Party, Jiang Zemin.

One of the Vice President’s of French company Sanofi quit his job, and went to Wuxi AppTech. Raymond J. Fitch also known as RJ, left Sanofi Pasteur, to serve as Vice President of manufacturing at Wuxi AppTech.

The Gates Foundation

The Gates Foundation, the foundation created by American billionaire Bill Gates, hired Sanofi Pasteur to explore the technical and regulatory feasibility of Micropellet technology for the development of cost-effective novel combination vaccines that are thermal stable. The Foundation also worked with Sanofi on a polio vaccine. Then in March 2020 Sanofi announced that the Gates Foundation was working again with them, this time on the coronavirus:

Sanofi is proud to be part of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation consortium to accelerate the development, manufacture and delivery of vaccines, diagnostics, and treatments to fight Covid-19.

And as noted above, now Sanofi has also been engaged by the US government to work on a vaccine for the cononavirus.

China at first covered up the coronavirus, but as soon as it admitted what was going on, the virus had spread and economic opportunists around the world jumped in.

Hat tip D. Manny

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Joe diGenova: Former FBI General Counsel James Baker Has Flipped and There’s a Mole Inside the FBI

Posted at 9:45 am on April 30, 2020 by Elizabeth Vaughn at Red State

Washington attorney Joe diGenova, a former U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, spoke to radio show host Howie Carr on Wednesday. Though the interview took place before Thursday night’s stunning release of FBI documents pertaining to Gen. Michael Flynn, he reported some fascinating new information about the Durham investigation.

DiGenova told Carr there is now a mole inside the FBI “who is leaking to the press about the current conduct of FBI Director Christopher Wray and his general counsel, Dana Boente.

“What’s very clear is according to two stories, one in The Federalist and one in The Daily Caller, diGenova said, “is someone inside the FBI is now whistleblowing by leaking to the press about what’s going on and boy, it is just fascinating to watch the claim that Chris Wray and Dana Boente did everything they could to prevent the stuff from the Missouri U.S. attorney from being given to Flynn’s attorney. That is the beginning of a very ugly story.”

They discussed the nature of the documents which had been turned over to Sidney Powell last Friday, which we heard about last night. But diGenova said something I had not heard before. He said that Jeff Sessions was talked into recusing himself from the Trump/Russia collusion case by Dana Boente who was then-Acting Deputy Attorney General.

DiGenova remarked, “This story is like a Russian novel. I mean, this is Dostoyevsky, it’s even better than Dostoyevsky.”  But, here’s the thing. We now know that Durham is investigating the leak of that conversation between Flynn and Kislyak, and we now know that – I don’t think he’s interviewed David Ignatius, the little twit from The Washington Post, who wrote the story – but the person who leaked the information about the Kislyak phone call because he had legal access to the unmasking of Flynn was a guy who ran what’s called the Office of Net Assessment in the Department of Defense, a guy named James Baker, not the James Baker who was the FBI Director [sic] [James Baker was the FBI’s General Counsel].

The bottom line is this, it’s unfolding and what’s happening is, what Durham is actually doing is he’s painting a picture and not everyone of these acts is going to be a specific separate crime. But they are going to be, what’s called “overt acts in a conspiracy.” One to defraud the United States government. One to deny the civil rights of Trump and Flynn and Page and a bunch of other people.  And I’ve been told within the last few days that they are also looking at obstruction of justice for anybody (inaudible) providing false information to the FISA Court, false information to the FBI. For example, it’s known that Brennan was desperately trying to get information to the bureau to open a counterintelligence investigation against the President while he was a candidate, while he was in the internecine period, and then while he was President. All of those are being looked at for obstruction of justice. So, that’s a pretty heavy plate.  Later in their discussion, diGenova asked Carr, “You know Baker is now cooperating with Durham?” (James Baker the former FBI General Counsel.)

Carr replied, “He’s flipped?”

And diGenova responded, “Who was a target, is now understandably cooperating because he was looking at a boatload of criminal charges. Once these notes were discovered, and by the way, these were the notes that [FBI Director] Chris Wray and Dana Boente did not want turned over to General Flynn.”

Note: Last night, it was revealed the notes had been written by Bill Priestap, who served as the assistant director of the FBI Counterintelligence Division at the time. DiGenova, based on an earlier conversation with Maria Bartiromo, believed at the time he spoke to Carr that they had been written by the former General Counsel, James Baker.

Although, as mentioned earlier, this interview was conducted before last night’s revelations, diGenova provided some new information. Some see diGenova as a conspiracy theorist, but throughout Spygate, he has provided a lot of information that has been accurate.

I have heard rumors in the past that James Baker (FBI) has been cooperating with John Durham’s team. It’s likely that when officials involved in the massive conspiracy to bring down Trump’s presidency realize that it’s “Checkmate,” others will begin cooperating with Durham.

Likewise, we’ve seen evidence of the mole in several articles that have been published lately. And a picture of Durham’s investigation is beginning to form. Both of these items are good news.

Last night’s revelations were truly pivotal. It was the first real indication that the deep state might be held accountable for their crimes.

Posted by: bj | April 29, 2020

The Gloves Are Off

The Gloves Are Off

The War is Against the Corrupt US Media, the highest levels of the Obama CIA, FBI, DOJ, NSA, DNC, The Corrupt Clinton Cabal, the Deep State and Biden’s Corrupt Dealings with China and Ukraine.

President Trump Outlining the Challenges Ahead For America………….

UTube Owned by GOOGLE is Engaging in Stalinistic Censuring to prevent 2 California Doctors from Telling the TRUTH – April 27, 2020

Click on: “Make Copies” to see The Doctors Video taken down from UTube

It’s Safe to get Back to Work in Hawaii ! Evidence Coronavirus Peaked in Hawaii on Feb 5 – Governor Orders Stay at Home Order 6 weeks later on March 23.

Pacific Business News – Honolulu – Opinion Page April 24, 2020

Pupu platter 208: What, another month of shutdown?

Last week, I noted that that policymakers were drifting from “flattening the curve of ICU admissions” due to Covid-19 to “slowing or stopping the spread of the virus,” with some national figures opining we need to wait until there’s a vaccine for life to get back to normal.

Folks, that was a warning, not advice. Nevertheless, Mayor Kirk Caldwell on Tuesday extended the City & County of Honolulu stay-at-home order until May 31. And, as Pacific Business News reported, “He also noted that for society to fully return to the way things were before the coronavirus, a treatment or vaccine must be developed, which could take 18 months.”

Meanwhile, the Hawaii State House Select Committee on Covid-19 Economic and Financial Preparedness said on Monday it’ll have a reopening plan drafted in about two weeks. The Honolulu Star-Advertiser on Monday reported that this week, the group was to have sketched out plans “to support screening, testing, tracking and quarantining the population when benchmarks for reduced transmission of the novel coronavirus have been met.”

There it is again. Not flattening the curve. Reducing the transmission. And this timetable may be moot by the time you read this. Gov. David Ige, who had already said his stay-at-home order could be extended past April, will likely have followed Caldwell’s lead.

I have yet to hear a compelling argument for the shift, and I certainly have not heard anyone in power ask our permission. People might die? The bargain was, give up April so that no one’s cause of death would be “lack of an ICU bed.” It’s a radical change in plan to say no one should die of any given contagious disease at all.

The fact is, between Jan. 1 and April 4 in Hawaii 6,262 people died, and of these 394 died from pneumonia or influenza. Which ought to explode the “wait for a vaccine” argument, because 394 died despite there being vaccines for many flu strains. It’s an impossible standard to base society upon.

Perspective: If you drew a line representing the 1.4 million people who live in Hawaii; one inch long for every person:

  • the 12 COVID-19 fatalities would be one foot of it. 
  • The 394 flu fatalities would be 33 feet. 
  • The 586 people who have tested positive for coronavirus would be 49 feet.
  • The people who have died since Jan. 1 of anything would be 522 feet.
  • The rest of that line would be 22 miles long.
  • So far, three miles of that line is the unemployment line. But with another month to go now, that will grow.

Policymakers, you can’t hold us all prisoner indefinitely for the illusion that a risk-free life is possible or that it comes from you

Speaking of the House Select Committee, I don’t understand why weeks of planning are needed before reopening most local business. Per the University of Hawaii Economic Research Organization report we’ve covered, 70% of our economy is Hawaii doing business with itself. Even if tourism remains dead for months, we could be doing much better if government would simply stop stopping us. Thousands of small businesses could reopen the minute they hear they won’t be arrested for doing so.

But, there will be clusters! We can’t have clusters! Look at those two McDonald’s on the Big Island!

Well, we don’t have such plans now and yet thousands of people statewide have been working and shopping in Safeway and Don Quijote and Costco and in the restaurants doing take-out since the shutdown began. Clearly, huge numbers of us mask-wearing, socially distant citizens can participate daily in even highly trafficked businesses, with clusters being rare exceptions. The irrational distinctions between what is deemed safe and what is not (beach walking deadly but grocery shopping OK!) are getting harder to take.

 

Don’t worry, you’ve got us all so frightened, people not only wear masks, they don’t even make eye contact anymore. Have you noticed that? It’s weird.

When did this really begin?

The Hawaii death tolls I mentioned come from the Hawaii Influenza/Respiratory Disease Surveillance Report Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, covering week 14 of the flu season, March 29 through April 4. Read it online here.

Something peculiar jumped out at me in the report. In week 4, ending Saturday, January 26, the percentage of hospital visits for “influenza like illnesses” departed from Hawaii’s historic norm over the past 10 years, at 4% of all hospital visits, and skyrocketed to a peak in week 8, ending February 8. Over that time, the percentage of hospital visits for “influenza like illnesses” doubled to 8%. Such hospital visits steadily declined through week 12, ending March 21, then plummeted with the stay-at-home order.

Something else peaks from weeks 4 through 8 — negative test results for known strains of the flu. Covid-19 testing began in week 10, ending March 8.  Now what could have sent twice as many people to the hospital than usual with symptoms of the flu that weren’t the flu? What weren’t we looking for at that time?

Have authorities considered that this thing had actually peaked at the beginning of February? Gov. Ige issued his stay-at-home order March 23. Given Hawaii’s international travel prior to that time, is it so unlikely that we already had this in circulation? Antibody testing would be the way to estimate how many people have already had Covid-19 and recovered. I think this is worth looking into. If this virus was more widespread than we knew, therefore less deadly than we thought, immunity more widespread than we guess, all the more reason to feel safe about getting back to work.

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